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Hi Small College Woman,
I agree, I haven't heard those complaints from graduates either. But some have simply moved into industry without complaining. Also, I have heard complaints from women late in the training process for neurosurgery and a few other specialties, about very overt bad treatment from supervisors with accompanying giggles and rib pokings from the nearby junior men. Argh!
cheers,
Laura
Hi Miri,
Yes, there's still a problem with faculty non-diversity, but it will never get better unless they do something about this atmosphere. Maybe women are the canary in the mine re supportive atmosphere? I kind of like that image. We just won't stay any more if it's terrible. Men will complain but they don't mind as much deep down, or they expect work to be emotionally draining?
cheers,
Laura
Interesting, Laura. I advise a lot of pre-meds, but almost none of them SAY they want to go into academic med. Quite a few enjoy research as undergrads, though, and over the years, I've seen some of them end up in that career. None has ever said to me they get a lack of respect and support from the more powerful faculty in their departments, but maybe they just expect that. Thought provoking!
SCW
Hi Laura,
Medical academia and so-called R1 research universities are still pretty severely bastions for old white males today. Women are making inroads, but the more academically well-regarded the institution (as in Ivy League) the more likely it is to still be stuck in the 1950s mud in that regard. I never heard about this problem that the young male faculty are evidently having now. Interesting. It seems that when things are improved for the women, everyone gets a better deal. Where have I heard that before??
Miri